Letâs go âBehind the Campaignâ with Charlie Terry from CEEK Marketing, one of Londons biggest Digital Marketing Agencies. In this series, weâll be sitting down with the masterminds behind some of the most brilliant brand campaigns out there, uncovering what fuels their success, the lessons theyâve picked up, and the unexpected twists along the way.
And who better to start with than Charlie Terry. From humble beginnings in Londonâs hospitality scene, where he built connections with some of the cityâs biggest movers and shakers, Charlieâs grown two powerhouse agencies that work with brands like Gailâs, The Savoy, and Disney. Think âjack-of-all-digital-tradesâ but with a knack for omnichannel magic.
In this chat, Charlie takes us behind the scenes of his journey, spilling the beans on everything from epic client campaigns to the highs and lows of running multiple agencies.
Looking back at Charlie Terry’s career
Your journey began in hospitality and grew into founding multiple agencies. Could you walk us through how those early experiences shaped your approach to marketing today?
I think the hospitality industry, as you say, you learn so many skills. Obviously, the people side is massive. Thatâs probably the main takeaway that I had. Youâre dealing with a lot of different types of people, which is a huge thing.
What was interesting about how I actually got into marketing was that we were in the hospitality space and doing events – working with restaurants, bars, hotels. But actually, what we didnât realise is that we were kind of a marketing agency. Thatâs essentially what we were doing, but we didnât know it because we were marketing these places, pushing our own events, and that was part of the business I owned prior. We eventually found that the thing we were really good at was the marketing itself. I was drawn to that side more than the output or event itself.
All our clients in the beginning were in hospitality, but we diversified quite quickly sector-wise, within a year or two. And Iâm glad we did, because otherwise weâd have been dead in the water during COVID. But even today, we still have a passion for hospitality. Itâs the people in that industry and the fact that itâs the ultimate service industry, you know?
Theyâre there to create experiences and memories. Itâs an amazing sector to be a part of – even now as an agency.
You’ve founded multiple agencies. What’s one of the biggest lessons you’ve learned from these experiences? Did you apply this lesson consistently, or did it lead you to do things differently in subsequent agencies?
Yeah, it’s a good question. Every time I’ve been involved in a new venture, one of the things that I’ve done differently is Iâve had co-founders in all my other ventures, whereas at CEEK, I was a solo founder and owner.
Not that I think it was a bad thing at the time because it forced me to learn everything – from the marketing side that we were actually doing, to finance, people operations, and just business in general. I had to become more commercial.
So having that experience of ultimately having to do everything, and honestly, having the naivety of doing it alone… anyone in their right mind whoâs trying to start a large agency should not do it alone if they can help it. I wouldnât recommend it. But after that, I brought in co-founders in the next businesses I was involved in. In the talent management agency, for example, my co-founder had a very different skill set from mine.
Now at CEEK, the teamâs skill set is diversified, and they complement each other well.
What you actually need to be doing is saying, âWhat can I not do? Where should my time not be?â
Thatâs the main difference between today and eight years ago when CEEK started. At District, a newer venture, weâve taken this learning forward and are very clever in how we hire, regularly bringing in people with complementary skill sets. And thatâs not just about skills but also about personalities. As a service-based business, youâre really selling the knowledge of the people in your business. So the big lesson is hiring the right people with complementary skill sets. I didnât really have that nailed down when I first started.
Insights from Marketing Campaigns
Partnering with brands like Gailâs, The Savoy, and Lâescargot, youâve had a hand in campaigns across diverse sectors. Could you take us through the creative process behind one of these standout campaignsâperhaps from brief to execution?
Yeah, sure, let’s walk through that. CEEK takes a slightly different approach depending on the clientâs size. Like you said, we work with large household names and multinationals, but also small, independent restaurants like LâEscargot. I was actually there last night! So, Iâll talk about a campaign there.
When we first start with a client, itâs a bit different depending on whether theyâre an existing or new business. But usually, theyâre coming in for what we call an omnichannel strategy. Itâs rare for our clients to say, âWe just need this one campaign on this one channel.â Sometimes, they come to us with an immediate problemâlike not showing up on Googleâand weâll address that. But more often, theyâre looking for commercial goals, like increased revenue, brand awareness, or footfall.
We start with an eight-step strategy process, which is really in-depth. This approach helps us prevent any potential holes in the bucket, so to speak, and ensure everything is set up for conversions. Even if the outcome is something like an influencer campaign or a blend of paid media, SEO, social, and email, we need to look at the whole landscape first to ensure weâre capturing everything.
With LâEscargot, one recent campaign was around launching some tote bags. They were really cool, and it wasnât the core business, but it was a content opportunity we wanted to shout about to their very engaged community. We had recently collaborated with Nike, where they launched a shoe called âEscargot,â which was a fantastic moment. Off the back of that, we wanted to keep the momentum going.
So, we brainstormed internally and decided on a partnership between a drinks brand, LâEscargot, and two influencers who had appeared on the show Emily in Paris. These two British girls had moved to Paris, cameoed on the show, and were already fans of the restaurant. They used to come to LâEscargot as guests before moving to Paris, so it was a very natural collaboration.
We created this âcontent momentâ for them, which worked beautifully. They got to generate content they loved, and the restaurant saw a great follower increase that wasnât even our primary goalâit was about the content itself and keeping things on-brand.
Overall, campaigns like these remind us why we do it: to understand the purpose behind each campaign. If itâs for revenue, great. But sometimes itâs for content or showcasing something on the clientâs channels, and that can drive growth in a different way. With partnerships, weâve seen tremendous growth over the last year by combining influencers with complementary brands, and thatâs something weâre excited to keep pushing forward.
Embracing an Omni-Channel Approach
Whatâs a key piece of advice youâd offer marketers today to elevate their campaign effectiveness, particularly when working across multiple digital channels and using an omni-channel approach?
Iâm sure you have people in your community at all different levels and dealing with different client sizes. So, itâs crucial to keep that in mind. For clients with smaller budgets or resources, it can be tough to cover every channel.
The first thing Iâd say is to really nail down your clientâs demographics. Reverse engineer thatâwhere is their audience living online? If youâre not there, maybe your customers are. You also need to decide which channels are first-party or owned, like a brandâs own social media channels, and where you might rely on third parties, such as influencers or partnerships.
One thing we see a lot is that a brand may not want to post daily on TikTok or might be hesitant to dive into a new platform, particularly in the luxury space. But sometimes, your customers are already there, shaping your narrative on that channel. So, having an omni-channel approach doesnât mean you have to be actively posting everywhere. You can use creators or third-party sources to establish a presence where youâre not directly active.
An omni-channel approach also helps to de-risk. For example, if youâre overly reliant on TikTok in the US, thereâs always the chance that platform could be restricted. With an omni-channel approach, youâre protected because youâre not dependent on just one channel.
Efficiency is another big reason. Take paid search, for instanceâpeople always focus on Google, but you could be missing cheaper search volume on platforms like Bing. Itâs worth considering whether youâre tapping into the full volume on other channels, as it might save on cost-per-acquisition.
Finally, the customer journey isnât linear. When Iâm making a significant purchase, Iâll go through multiple touch-points: I might search on Google, get sent a link on WhatsApp, check their Instagram, look at tagged images, location tags… as marketers, we can curate all those moments to boost positioning and engagement with the user.
So, an omni-channel approach achieves three things: it de-risks, increases ROI and efficiency, and aligns with the non-linear customer journey. Customers will engage on multiple channels, so being there, even passively, makes sure your brand is part of their path to purchase.
You work across different sectors – which may not serve best for a cookie-cutter approach. How much does the strategy approach change for each client?
I love that question. So, itâs definitely different for every client, as in the advice we give varies. That said, certain principles remain consistent. For example, the way you get to the top of Google is the same for the fashion industry as it is for home design. There are standard rules per channel that apply across sectors.
But the real benefit of working across multiple sectors is that we can take ideas from one industry and bring them into another. For instance, we might see something innovative in fashion and adapt it for a hospitality client. Itâs almost the same strategy, but itâs new to that sector, where others arenât doing it.
In hospitality, like in the five-star hotel market in London, thereâs often an âecho chamberâ effect. Everyoneâs using the same photographers, influencers, and tactics. When we stepped back into that space after COVID, we thought, âLetâs just do something completely different from what everyone else is doing.â We took inspiration from other sectors, like fashion or wellness, to offer fresh ideas.
I was advised over and over when I started the agency to specialise in a single sector. People said, âYou need to niche; you need to be a specialist.â But in my view, we dominate the specialists because we see the wider market. We get inspired by multiple industries and can adapt ideas across different clients.
Our strategy process itself is the same for each sector.
- First, we conduct a demographic analysis specific to each clientâs target.
- Then, we do both direct and indirect competitor analyses. Direct competitors offer the same product, while indirect ones target the same consumer but with a different product.
- Then, we look at seasonality. For example, with our luxury gym client, BXR, new year memberships are huge, so weâll focus on maximising that. Meanwhile, with a restaurant like LâEscargot, people arenât typically drinking red wine and eating steaks in January, so weâd shift our approach there.
- Lastly, we conduct a platform analysis. Weâre partners with Google, Meta, Pinterest- you name it. When we discuss with these platforms, they provide data on whether a particular audience is active there, which varies by industry.
So, to sum it up, the process remains the same, but the outcome is unique to each clientâs needs and industry specifics.
Parting Advice for Marketers
With such a successful career spanning over a decade, you may have experienced setbacks when building and growing your agencies. Any advice for others in similar positions facing challenges in agency growth and client management?
I want to give you a different answer than before, because the biggest challenge I have today is actually the thing Iâve learned the most over the past eight yearsâitâs people. As an agency founder, our purpose is to deliver outstanding results for our clients, and to do that, we need an incredible team who are always growing and evolving with this fast-moving industry.
If you take a break from Google Ads, for example, and come back after a year, it can look entirely different. SEO is changing faster than ever with AI, social media algorithms are evolving, and vertical video formats are shifting with TikTokâs influence. But I can tell you that businesses often grow faster than people, and they should. Thatâs a challenging concept to accept.
If youâre planning on staying in a business long-term or working with clients over a long period, you need to grow and adapt as an individual. Some of the most successful people Iâve worked with stick around, honing their craft and becoming specialists in areas rather than jumping from one thing to the next. I see a lot of people, often younger generations, bouncing from job to job, but sometimes staying put helps you really gain traction.
So, for anyone in an agency or even in-house, my advice is this: businesses grow faster than people, so you need to reinvent yourself every couple of years to stay aligned with the business and your clients. Iâm a completely different operator than I was four years ago – and four years before that was also different.
When I started in marketing, Iâd be on every platformâs blog daily, learning every single change. Now, I rely on my teamâs curiosity to bring that information to me as I shift into a more strategic role.
Finally, always keep in mind the commercial outcomes. If youâre a marketer and you forget that the end goal is commercial success, then youâre missing the mark. Whether youâre pitching, managing clients, or working on promotions, remember that your work has to ultimately drive results. Thatâs the key difference between good and great marketers.
Curious to dive deeper into Charlieâs world? Find out more about his work over on the CEEK website and connect with him on LinkedIn for even more marketing insights.
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